Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

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Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by nzbassplayer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:15 pm

do you consider to be more of an entertianer than an musician?

I think i am.

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by john » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:19 pm

I would say I am more of a (wanna be) musician .
Not overly fussed on doing gigs to tell the truth.

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by Dan » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:15 am

I take more the musician approach, but if I'm really required to entertain I can....kinda :P

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by nzbassplayer » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:48 am

I always think about Billy Joel's lyric from "the entertainer"

I am the entertainer,
And I've had to pay my price.
The things I did not know at first,
I learned by doin' twice.
Ah, but still they come to haunt me,
Still they want their say.
So I've learned to dance
With a hand in my pants,
And they rub my neck,
And I write 'em a check,
And they go their merry way.

From my prepective, i think the audience likes to be entertained.

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by beagle » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:01 pm

For me Musician .... and if people enjoy my music, an entertainer :lol:
nzbassplayer wrote:From my prepective, i think the audience likes to be entertained.
Yes the audience likes to be entertained... but different audiences have different requirements and expectations.
i.e. I wouldn't try to fill a role in a band where good stage performance was an essential requirement... cause that's not my thing.
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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by nzbassplayer » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:05 pm

so true!

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by timi » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:52 am

This will make me sound like a cock, but I consider myself an "artist"

Playing music is great, as is entertaining people, but I only want to do it with music that I have had at least some part in creating.

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by foal30 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:19 pm

Creating = Composition or
Creating = Improvisation of already scored piece?

it's hard to be good at both I reckon.
heh, not that I'm suggesting I'm good at either mind.

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by definite » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:50 pm

I consider my self both - when we're writing and jamming its all about the music - when we're performing its equal parts entertainment/ music

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by Miss Piggy » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:29 am

I think what Beagle said is quite true, about different audiences having different expectations. For example - sometimes they just came out to the pub with their friends for a drink, and maybe will dance if there just happens to be a band playing, and are not interested in what you look like or if you can crack jokes or leap about the stage. Other audiences however, are there because they know there is a band playing, and require a little bit more entertainment. Sometimes the entertainment comes into play a lot when playing at an outdoor gig, for example, when I played at Botany town centre last year - we HAD to make it as much of an entertainment thing as possible to grab the shoppers attention (and yes, it really worked well!) - on that occasion it's a very visual thing as much as being musically competent too.

Me personally though, I prefer to put all my efforts into playing really well, being an entertainer doesn't come naturally to me, and I have to dig deep to be able to do it well.

Anyway, for me, speaking as a muso, I enjoy listening to most bands - whether they entertain or not, as long as they can play/sing competently.

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by definite » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:25 pm

I reckon seeing a band thats really into their music is entertaining by itself - if the band memebrs are consciously trying to entertain then that can be kinda corny! unless its an actual show band where the focus is on entertainment above the actual music...

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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by model.citizen » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:27 am

when people come and fork over some precious $$ to see me play, i wanna give them something for their money.

not just a proficient musical performance, but a bit of a stageshow. i miss the days of OTT gigs (kiss, etc) where the stage performance was just as important as the music being delivered.

people want to be entertained, i hate seeing a band on stage that (even if cracking) are lifeless. any of my stage performances are a combination of giving the audience a show and exorcising the gotta-be-onstage demons in me :)
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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by Rasta_nz » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:58 pm

More a musician at a gig but i can be entertaining too... just watch me trip over my cable, now thats entertaining.
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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by Harley » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:51 am

To succeed in getting gigs, you have to be both.
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Re: Are you a Musician or an Entertianer?

Post by Dan » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:05 pm

Again, very subjective. To be a jazz player you don't really need to entertain. Some would say to be a punk player you don't really need to be able to play :wink:

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